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then i will!! it’ll also probably help me with visualizing thonk

Leiko is very knowledgeable about meditating and also v good at giving tulpa advice. Perhaps she can help guide you in the right direction about it as well.

Milk

Leiko is very knowledgeable about meditating and also v good at giving tulpa advice. Perhaps she can help guide you in the right direction about it as well.

oh yeah, that’s a good idea!

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any tips on how to become better at proxying for my tulpa?

That seems like you just need to work on vocality. If you have good vocality there should be no reason you are struggling with proxying

Rusty

That seems like you just need to work on vocality. If you have good vocality there should be no reason you are struggling with proxying

OMG IM SO LATE TO THIS…but anyways!! what are some things you used to do to improve vocality?

Deleted User

OMG IM SO LATE TO THIS…but anyways!! what are some things you used to do to improve vocality?

What stage are you at? How old is the tulpa? How consistent is your current vocality and what are you already doing to improve it?

Rusty

What stage are you at? How old is the tulpa? How consistent is your current vocality and what are you already doing to improve it?

i’d say still in the childhood stage— he can form thoughts and emotions on his own but i can still predict what he is going to say next + i still mistake his thoughts for mine sometimes LOL. i believe he’s about three to four days old. he only really talks if i talk to him first, and he replies every time but they’re usually one or two word answers that i have to interpret myself. lately, i’ve been narrating more, randomly asking him his opinions on certain things, and really trying to get him to dig deeper into his own responses.

4:14 AM

if u see any spelling errors…um no you didn’t Stick_slam

Predicting what they are going to say is pretty normal for that age so don’t be discouraged by that. That is always going to happen, but could happen less with age. There isn’t a way I know of to make that happen less other than just time. With being able to tell your thoughts from him, that’s also something that will come with time. Every headmate, including yourself, has a certain feeling to them. A ‘presence’ or ‘vibe’, something you feel when you think about them. This isn’t a headmate specific thing. You can think of anyone or even any place and get a general feeling of it. As your tulpa ages and gets a firmer sense of self their presence will become more easily recognizable and that’s what you will use to tell your thoughts apart. For now you can help them along by assigning thoughts to them. If you have a thought and it’s not harmful and you aren’t really sure where it came from, just assign it to them. That’s their thought now, doesn’t matter if it’s true or not right now. Tulpamancy is very literally fake it until you make it. Having short replies is normal for a tulpa so young. Remember that a tulpa can communicate with you in other ways than just clear words. You can use emotions and raw thought. Raw thought being just the concept of a sentence, you understand the purpose of the sentence but the actual words aren’t there. If you are having a rough time getting responses stick to yes or no answers. You can use a positive or negative emotion for yes or no as well as actual words. It’s not going to get a personality very quickly but it’s going to get them used to responding and you used to recognizing when they speak. This is a very important skill for both of you. Narrating is always good, especially if you don’t have time to just sit down and talk. I personally find it much easier to keep up narration if I’m imaging myself as a vlogger. Remember to pause every once in a while to give them the chance to comment on something.

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4:30 AM

It sounds like you are experiencing what is to be expected from a 3-4 day old tulpa, you are on the right path. You just got to keep speaking to them and learning what it feels like to communicate with a tulpa. Consistency will come with time

thank you for the advice Cat_love

it’s good to know that im not messing anything up LOL bigkek

i’m very excited to see how he will be as the days go on Kanna_rawr

It’s pretty hard to ‘mess something up’ with tulpamancy. You can accidentally build up a mentality that makes it harder for you in the future but that can always be reinforced to change. I fucked up pretty severely with my system in many different ways and yet we are still going on and for the most part doing alright.

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4:43 AM

How dare you Yuka, I haven’t given advice in ages let me have my book

Just surprising is all! It's a bgood book

Hi! How do you role play with your tulpa? I haven't done role-playing before but when I asked my tulpa told me that she was interested. But I'm not sure how exactly to do it (edited)

ohhh?

Zehel X403

Hi! How do you role play with your tulpa? I haven't done role-playing before but when I asked my tulpa told me that she was interested. But I'm not sure how exactly to do it (edited)

i may be able to help you there friend^^

Cri The Cryptid

i may be able to help you there friend^^

Okay

12:22 PM

So how is it done?

hmmmm

12:23 PM

Have you roleplayed at all before?

Nope

12:23 PM

Never

oof

12:28 PM

ok then

12:28 PM

well thats the first step

12:28 PM

I would invite you to some of my rp servers but they might not be very "family friendly"

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12:29 PM

Are you saying to role play with someone?

it would be a good start

How else do you roleplay….?

Rusty

How else do you roleplay….?

Beleive me there are ways

Also both my tulpas were formed through roleplay. Do not recommend

12:31 PM

Easy cheat code for the first stages, will probably fuck you over in the long run

They arent "forming" them through roleplay

12:31 PM

they said that their tulpa showed interest in it

If you don’t want to roleplay with another separate person I guess you’d just both make your own characters and write your posts in a private server as if you are two separate people

12:32 PM

Although I don’t get the appeal at all

12:33 PM

Roleplays are best with other separate people involved

You dont have too, they are the one who asked for advice

Rusty

Roleplays are best with other separate people involved

I don't have separate people

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12:34 PM

now you do ^^

Is it possible to role play online?

ummm

12:34 PM

yea

Didn't know that

On discord, games like D&D, skyrim, valheim even

12:35 PM

in a tulpa scenario those wont all apply

Wait. What exactly is role-playing?

What do you think roleplaying is?

You act as a character or something?

roleplay games are a thing

12:37 PM

some have a character customization where you can make an avatar of the character, for example

I'm still not quite getting it

hmmm

12:39 PM

I would try and show you here but i feel like id be metaphoriccaly arrested

This is what a roleplay would typically look like for me

12:40 PM

You can also roleplay on games and such, but I always preferred text

12:41 PM

Basically you and another person are writing a book, each of you only has control over your own character

12:42 PM

Which is why I said before that I don’t see the point or appeal of doing it without a separate person. Without them you aren’t really roleplaying, you are just sitting alone writing a book.

I see

12:42 PM

Now I got it

^^

Thank you all!!!

Yw

you are just sitting alone writing a book

Basically, unless your goal is to write a book, I can't imagine any reason you'd want to "roleplay" (in text) with your tulpa instead of wonderland/visualize

12:44 PM

Plenty of people visualize random scenarios with their tulpa, in different roles than normal just for fun

12:44 PM

Sorry, not to be ableist against people with aphantasia :P

that can also be considered roleplay though

Exactly, if you want to roleplay with your tulpa it’s probably much easier to just do wonderlanding.

Reisen

Plenty of people visualize random scenarios with their tulpa, in different roles than normal just for fun

I'm not good with visualisation

people play a role

Poor visualization, however, is not aphantasia

12:45 PM

Visualization can be improved with consistent practice, and should be if you're interested in doing stuff with your tulpa in-mind

12:46 PM

Visualization practice can be literally anything, whether it's literally interacting with your tulpa, or just visualizing random stories/scenarios, or dedicated practice like trying to imagine visuals to audio (/ a video with your eyes closed)

12:46 PM

They all help the same goal

Reisen

Visualization can be improved with consistent practice, and should be if you're interested in doing stuff with your tulpa in-mind

At some point I was good at it After not doing active forcing for some time because of short time My visualisation skill decreased Now I need the help of my tulpa for maintaining an image of her

12:49 PM

She almost pitties me at it now :I

Zehel X403

Are you saying to role play with someone?

you don’t need to roleplay with anyone beside your tulpa and you definitey don’t need to do it on nsfw places as it was suggested (edited)

12:52 PM

what you do is basically playing a scenario in your head, or if it’s too hard on a discord server where your tulpa speaks via a bot

12:53 PM

it’s like writing a story together but each person write parts that relate to them

12:54 PM

if you could do it in your head it’s easier because you just act it out

Thanks!!

np

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

you don’t need to roleplay with anyone beside your tulpa and you definitey don’t need to do it on nsfw places as it was suggested (edited)

are you implying something here?

did i say something not clear there?

im just curious to what was meant there?

1:44 PM

you seemed to suggest someone actually said that option...?

do you think i implied you or something? (edited)

it certainly seemed that way tbh

2:21 PM

Dunno why though

why would it seem to be about you

nvd im tired i need sleep TvT

Is it possible to remove a headmate's specific personality traits, and change them more directly?

Luminesce: Probably harder with well-developed headmates who've been around/established in the brain for a long time (edited)

8:30 AM

But if you and them both want to change something about them, it's not impossible

8:31 AM

Not done often and we haven't done anything of the sort since 2013, so I can't give a very detailed answer (edited)

I think I recall doing some personality forcing work with Bune (Ian) pre-integration, which is relatively recently (~a yearish). I remember Bune saying what traits he wanted to try and what he wanted to reject. I think it had mixed results iirc, but I don't think it was a super serious attempt? I would have to look back at the logs. Ironically it might be easier to let go of an undesirable trait if they're an older tulpa. It's sort of like looking back on your old posts and realizing how cringe they are- you recognize the behavior or traits you don't like and reject them. However, if you don't have much confidence in claiming other qualities as "you", it may be ineffective. Personality forcing is an expectation based approach that works because it helps you associate what behaviors/traits are considered "you" and what is not, and the timing matters. A super fresh young tulpa sometimes has no associations or expectations, but an underdeveloped tulpa may be more insecure and reject anything that threatens their weak sense of self. I think it's worth noting several of my headmates made big deviations once they had a broader sense of self to work with. Ultimately, I think it can work, but it may not be super effective if the headmate finds change threatening to their sense of self. I think given the circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised if that's why Bune (Ian) didn't continue this approach- he was not ready to embrace a big change despite ironically looking for one. Looks at logs ah, it looks like Bune (Ian) decided to integrate instead of going with the personality forcing route. I do remember sitting down with him at one point though, and he did report a weak sense of self (edited)

Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

Is it possible to remove a headmate's specific personality traits, and change them more directly?

that’s caled “personal growth”